의문을 제기할땐 근거를 가지고 제기해야하는 거다. 꼬마야. ㄴㄴ홀로코스트수정론비판

1. 나는 니들이 믿어야 한다고 설교하는 홀로코스트에 의문을 제기했을 뿐이다. 그러면 설교하는 교조주의자들이 이 사람들의 도덕성에 시비할 문제가 아니라그 의문에 구체적이고 과학적인 방법으로 설명해야 하는 의무가 있는 것이다. 

->너 역시 구체적이고 과학적인 방법으로 니 의문을 뒷받침해야할 의무가 있다만? 구체적인 근거도 없이 믿기 힘들다고 하는 의문을 어디서부터 어떻게 반박하라는 거냐? 뭣보다 넌 내가 제시한 설명을 제대로 읽지도 않잖아?

2. 역사학자 데이빗 어빙게도 그랬다. 홀로코스트가 이런 규모였냐는 의문과 질문때문에 기소된 피고에게 그게 아니라면 니가 증명해보라고 요구했다. 범죄자라고 기소 했으면서 니가 그 범죄자가 아니란 걸 범죄자라며 기소한 피고에게 증명해 보라는 것이었다. 

->어빙은 의문을 제기한게 아니라 자기를 홀로코스트 부정론자라고 주장한 데보라 립스타드를 명예훼손으로 고발했지만, 립스타드는 홀로코스트가 존재함에도 불구하고 어빙이 의도적으로 무시하고 왜곡하고 있다는 증거를 제시했고, 그에 따라 폐소했다. 어빙-립스타드 재판에서 니말대로 증거를 제시한건 피고다. 그리고 그 피고는 어빙이 아니라 립스타드다. 원래 영국사법체계는 무죄추정의 원칙이 없어서 피고에게 무죄 입증 책임이 주어지거든. 

3. 홀로코스트는 독일이 자행한 홀로코스트만 있는 것이 아니다. 홀로코스트는 르완다에서도 (곤봉과 칼같은 야만적인 무기로도 짧은 내전기간 수십만을 학살했다) 아메리카 신대륙에서도 (수천만의 주검) 중국의 대약진 운동기간 (5-6천만이 아사했다)때도 스탈린의 굴락에서도 터키에서 아르메니안 150만이 학살당했다....그런데 유독 대전기간 유태인 개스학살 600만에서만 부정론자들과 수정론자들이 대고 등장해 목소리를 높혔고 그들이 제기하는 의문에 세상이 조금씩 동조하는 것이다. 이유는 간단한 것 아닌가. 

이유는 너무나도 단순하다. 유태인들이 주장하는 600만 개스 공장식 학살설에 헛점과 비현실적 부분이 너무 많은 것이다. 그 전체적 진상을 파악하려는데 모순과 납득할 수 없는 설명이 난무하는 것이다. 진지한 학자들에게 지적을 받으면 부분적인 부분은 수정하더라도 전체적인 입장에선 조금도 물러서지 않으려 한다. 그러니 또다시 모순이 생긴다. 

-> 자꾸 비현실적이라고 주장하는데 맞는 얘기다. 정말 한 인종을 절멸시키겠다고 전쟁중에 그정도의 자원을 할당해 학살을 저지르는 건 비현실적인 일이 맞다. 그런데 동기의 비현실성에도 불구하고 입증하는 증거들은 분명할 정도로 많다. 나치의 지도부는 유태인의 절멸에 목표가 있었음을 증명하는 괴벨스의 일기, 아우슈비츠에서 가스실이 있었고 여기서 100만이상의 유태인이 죽어나갔다고 하는 회스의 일기와 증언, 1942년 한해동안에만 트레블링카에서 70만이 죽었음을 보고하는 회플레전문, 치클론 가스가 학살에 동원됬음에 관한 증언을 담은 게른슈타인 보고서 등등 증거들은 차고넘친다.

하여간 어떻게든 홀로코스트를 다른 학살과 다를바없는 수준으로 만드려는 네오나치들의 논리를 그대로 차용하는것도 우스울따름. 

4. 홀로코스트가 가장 대규모로 진행되어 왔다는 아유슈비츠의 유태인 학살자 수를 언론이나 박물관측에서 계속 수정해 왔음을 주목해 보라. 나를 포함한 전 인류는 지난 수십년간 아우슈비츠 유태인 학살 400만이라는 사실을 듣고 믿어왔다. 더불어 이를 포함한 대전 기간중 나찌에 의한 자행된 총 유태인 학살 규모는 600만이라 들어왔다. 

냉전이 끝나고 동부권이 개방된 95년 뉴스위크는 아우슈비츠 유태인 학살 규모를 150만으로 수정했다. 2005년 아우슈비츠 60주년 기념식에서 드디어 아우슈비츠 유태인 학살 100만설이 나왔다. 2017년 조선일보가 취재한 아우슈비치에선 유태인 학살규모를 80만 이라고 했다. 더불어 개스학살뿐 아니라 기아, 전염병, 총살, 열악한 상태의 노동, 학대 고문등이 유태인 학살의 원인이라고 덧 붙였다. 400만에서 80만까지의 숫자놀음은 냉전시대 이후 공개된 아우슈비츠 학살공장의 (학살공장이라 미치도록 믿고싶다면?) 규모나 시스템이 개스처형이라는 고비용 비현실적 방법으로 도저히 그만한 숫자의 인명을 말살할 만한 산술적 과학적 수치에 접근 할 수 없기에 어쩔수 없이 수정된 사실이라고 추정할 수 있다.

-.재밌는건 이 자는 계속해서 정확한 앞뒤 맥락을 짤라먹고 사실을 인용하고 있다. 혹은 그것이 아니면 스스로도 충분하게 확인하지 않은 글을 바탕으로 주장을 전재하고 있다. 문제의 조선일보 글을 보자. 

"이곳은 1942년에서 1944년 사이에 본격적인 대량 학살이 자행된 수용소로, 유대인이라는 이유로 많은 이들이 고문과 죽임을 당했다. '아우슈비츠 1'이라는 이름의 최초 수용소는 본래 폴란드의 정치범들을 가두기 위한 곳이었으나, 점차 다른 수용소들의 행정 본부 역할을 하게 되었다. '아우슈비츠 2'(비르케나우)는 중심적인 집단 학살 수용소였으며, 80만 명의 유대인이 죽임을 당한 장소이기도 했다. '아우슈비츠 3'(모노비츠)은 특수 노동 수용소로, 유대인들이 이게 파르벤(IG Farben) 합성 고무 공장과 석유 추출 공장에서 강제 노역을 당했다."

http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2017/01/17/2017011701087.html

아우슈비츠 전체 수용소 가운데서 비르케나우에서 죽은 숫자만 80만이라는 얘기다. 당연하게도 여기에는 강제노역과 질병, 그리고 비르케나우가 건설되기 이전의 피해자들이 제외된다. 게다가 여기에는 44년 중반이후 도착 즉시 학살당한 40만 가량의 헝가리 유태인들-영화 "사울의 아들"에서도 묘사됬지만 이들은 갑자기 대규모로 끌려온 탓에 아우슈비츠의 처리능력을 넘어서서 가스가 아닌 노상처형으로 죽이기도 했다-이 포함된 숫자인지도 의심스럽다. 

그렇게 전체 글을 맥락을 왜곡하면서까지 자기 주장하는건 역시 어빙의 추종자 답다고 평가해주고 싶다.

5. 아우슈비츠 박물관만 가도 가스실 청사진과 설계도가 걸려있다. 거기에는 환기시스템에 대한 설계도 함께 그러져 있다. 

정말 보고 오긴 한거냐? 

그리고 용광로 운운하는데 니가 나중에 불 지펴봐라. 무슨 영화처럼 이거저거 쌓아놓고 불지르면 잘타나. 게다가 재는 인근 까지 퍼져나갈텐데, 무슨 기름걸레 불지르는것도 아니고 뭘 한꺼번에 태워?


덧글

  • santalinus 2017/06/14 14:14 # 답글

    이정도면 거의 병입니다 병;;;;
  • Cicero 2017/06/15 22:08 #

    게다가 나을 기색도 없네요
  • 2017/06/14 14:35 # 답글 비공개

    비공개 덧글입니다.
  • 역성혁명 2017/06/14 15:53 # 답글

    https://youtu.be/cCle21OJdDQ

    지금 나치학살부정론자는 이런 기분으로 자신은 할일 다했다고 생각했겠죠.
  • 터프한 얼음대마왕 2017/06/14 20:37 # 답글

    저로서는 나치학살부정론자는 .... 입에서 단어 하나도 나오지 않습니다만.

    저처럼 나치 학살의 구체적인 정보는 모른 사람으로서는 나치학살부정론자를 반박하는 자료들은 환영합니다. ^&^

    나올수록 보물을 접하는 기분으로 기다립니다. ㅎㅎㅎㅎ... 제 마음 같아서는 더 반박해줬으면 싶지만.

    그러다간 님의 정신 건강을 해치는 무리한 요구라 하지 않겠습니다.
  • ㅇㅇ 2017/06/14 21:00 # 삭제 답글

    4등급짜리 인간이 열심히 총통과 그 일당 쉴드쳐주는게 참... 재밌네요
  • 범골의 염황 2017/06/15 08:53 #

    저런애들 싹 가스실로 보내버리면 한국인 IQ를 20년 내로 최소 10 정도는 올릴 수 있을 겁니다. 가스가스가스!
  • 매장화장 2017/06/15 21:47 # 삭제 답글

    그런데 나치가 그냥 땅에 묻지 않고 태운 까닭이 뭔가요? 아무리 생각해도 묻는 게 훨씬 싸고 빠를텐데요. 당시 독일에 화장할 연료도 모자랐을텐데요.
  • Cicero 2017/06/15 22:08 #

    땅에 묻었더니 썩어서 냄새풍기고 전염병이 돌아서요.
  • 눈뻑자 2017/06/16 01:08 # 삭제

    본것처럼 얘기하네 케케로가 같이 묻어 봤나부네...으히히히.
    전염병 시체가 아니라 개스로 죽인 시체인데 먼 전염병일 돈다구 하시지...
    케케로 니 말데로 기차에 실려오는 족족 개스실에 쳐넣고 학살했다면 전염병이 도는 걸 왜 걱정할까?

    왜 못 묻었을까?
    다른 지역에서 학살한 시체들은 다 묻었는데...리가서 유태인 2만도 묻었고 러시아군은 카틴숲속에서 학살한 폴란드인 2만도 땅에 묻었는데...우크라이나에서도 그랬고...아우슈비츠에서만 다 태웠다네...그많은 기름을 써 가며...시체 한구 한구 소각로에 넣구서....

    그러구보면 나찌가 케케로처럼 정성이 대단했어..유태인들 화장까지 경건하게시켜주었으니....히히히
  • 트레버매덕스 2017/06/16 11:40 #

    가스로 죽은 시체는 전염병이 안도나요?
  • 긁적 2017/06/27 01:51 #

    캬. 가스로 죽이면 세균 번식이 안 되는구나.
    좋은 의학지식 배워갑니다 ^-^

    얘 진짜 아무 것도 모르는 거 확실하다.
  • 이건 뭐지?? 2017/06/16 10:58 # 삭제 답글

    아니 가스로 죽이면 시체가 안 썩나? 물론 묻는 위치가 사람이 접근하기 힘든 곳이라면 묻는것도 옵션중의 하나겠지만.. 아재요.. 우리나라 구제역, AI로 죽인 돼지랑 닭들 묻은 곳도 지금 침출수가 나오네.. 환경이 오염되네.. 등등 난리인데.. 몇십만 단위로 죽은 시체를 묻으면 가스로 죽엿다고 안 썩나요?
  • 한쓰 2017/06/16 14:43 # 답글

    부차적인 질문입니다만,

    영국사법체계에는 무죄추정의 원칙이 없다는 내용이 있어서 질문드립니다.
    그럼 아무래도 사회적 약자이기 쉬운 피고에게 큰 부담이 될 것 같은데, 어떤식으로 작동하는지 간략하게라도 설명해 주실 수 있나요?
  • Cicero 2017/06/20 12:08 #

    저도 영국의 법체제는 자세히 모르겠습니다만, 영국은 무죄추정의 원칙이 입증책임을 떠넘기는 제도라고 보고 상호입증책임을 지는 식으로 운영한다고 하더군요
  • 지나가던과객 2017/06/18 08:31 # 삭제 답글

    재판할 때 원고든 피고든 판사에게 증거로 얘기하는데, 원고가 피고에게 증거를 가져오랍구쇼?

    자기가 cicero님에게 뭔가 주장을 할려면 증거를 들이대고 주장을 해야지 증거도 없이 주장을 하면 지나가던 똥개도 납득을 안 하죠.
  • queenFuck 2017/06/20 04:44 # 삭제 답글

    케케로 내 댓글은 다 지웠구 내가 댓글 못남기게 막아놓았구만...그렇게 치사스럽게 사이트를 운영해야 하나?

    밑에는 리비젼니스트들이 묻는 40개 질문과 답 중에서 일단 10개만 올려본다. 케케로 너에게 답하라는 것이 아니라 걍 한번 감상하라는 것이다. 나머지도 30개 문항도 곧 올리마.


    1.WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

    None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no demographic statistics.

    On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.


    2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING WORLD WAR TWO?

    Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their race or national origin alone.


    3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS?


    Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out. Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions. However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of internment once the war broke out.

    On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and transferred power back to the German people.

    The boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.


    4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?

    Yes. In Books and Bookmen, April 1975 issue. He claims the gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.

    5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?

    Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GI s were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
    En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp" version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.

    6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?


    No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.

    7. IF AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?

    It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber (Buna) was made there, and its inmate s were used as a workforce, in the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in correctional systems throughout the United States today.

    8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?


    Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is commonly used and available today.



    9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?

    Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be cross examined.


    10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?

    About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians only are employed.
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    11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

    It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.

    12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?

    Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six million figure as well.

    13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?

    Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS, British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was occurring.

    14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DURING THE WAR?
    About 300,000.


    15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
    Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
    It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews might have survived the concentration camps.
    Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.


    16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000 DIED?


    5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
    17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?

    A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.

    18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?

    No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits. [Note From Harold Covington: I can personally confirm! from my own observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]

    19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?

    About two hours.

    20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?

    To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from typhus and other diseases.

    21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?

    About 430,600.

    22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?

    No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in heavy operation.
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    23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED CORPSE?

    After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.


    24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATE D BY THE NAZIS, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?

    That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz area or anywhere else in Europe.

    25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?

    No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were burned.


    26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?

    A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in September of 1944 pointed out that intern e es were allowed to receive packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.

    Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalk ed up to belated Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.

    27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
    Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the published text.
    In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years. When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolate w ion s written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view it.

    28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?

    Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning. Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.

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    (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly laid at the door of the Kremlin.
    That this kind of fraud continues to be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler.
    The almost universally leftist political and social orientation of Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's refusal to accept any more NSWPP. e-mail after General Secretary Covington asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)

    29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?

    Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed, the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.

    30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
    None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered.
    The Nazis were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.



    31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND DURING THE WAR?
    Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order to silence him.


    32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
    Slightly less than four million.

    33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE NAZIS?
    Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to kill them.

    34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?

    After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000, they are all accounted for.

    35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE TODAY?

    It shields them from any criticism over their political, economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70 billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the Jewish people to keep the scam going.

    36. ARE FILMS LIKE DOCUMENTARIES?

    Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be. They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the creative and financial sectors of film making.

    Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history that in recent years even mainstream reviewer s and commentators have begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being unrecognizable.
    Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young female camp inmate s, who later abandoned his wife and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire because their portrayal s of historical characters like Nixon and events
    like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.


    37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARD JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
    37. Over 100, with more in the works.

    38. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?

    A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to express any dissent or doubt in the Holocaust orthodoxy.

    It is clear from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.


    The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust are arrested, tortured and imprisoned.

    was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.

    An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.


    THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly proves that the Holocaust is a fraud.

    If the Holocaust was true, neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.


    39. HAVE THESE THUG GISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING REVISIONISTS?
    No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
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    근거근거 해서 근거 좀 댈려고 했더니 다 막아놓았구만....영어 독해가 잘 안되서 그런가...

    케케로 독해까지 달아 줄테니 스팸방지 좀 풀르지 그래...이히히히
  • 데굴데굴 2017/06/23 08:59 # 삭제 답글

    이쯤되면 사람이 아니라 참피급...
  • 역성혁명 2017/06/30 04:29 # 답글

    그냥 "난 히틀러 짱! 유대인 말살 합당한거야 우리 나치 착해요. " 그게 낫지 뭔 말은 길어서
  • dd 2018/11/10 21:38 # 삭제 답글

    키케로님에게 한 가지 여쭤볼게 있습니다.

    제가들은바에 따르면 나치는 그들 입장에서는 열등한 인류라고 분류한 인종, 대표적으로 슬라브족의 영토등을 강탈해서 이를 독일인에게 나눠주는 일을 했으며, 나치는 유대인들에게도 마찬가지로 유대인들의 재산과 상권을 빼앗아 독일인에게 나눠주는 일을 했다고 합니다.

    문제는 이 과정에서 힘러나 괴벨스같은 하부실행자들의 과열경쟁이 붙어서 절멸수용소나 가스 샤워장 같은 효과적인 학살정책과 학살방식이 나오게 되었다고 합니다.

    즉 홀로코스트는 학살 그 자체가 목적이기 보다는 유대인들의 땅과 재산을 빼앗는 그 나름대로의 실리를 위한 강탈로 부터 시작했으나 이에 밑의 하부 실행자들의 과열경쟁으로 상당한 체계적인 학살 시스템을 갖추게 된 것 뿐이며, 여타 이민족들의 땅과 재산을 빼앗는 예를 들어 아메리카 원주민 학살 같은 것과 질적인 면에서는 크게 다르지 않다고 들었는데 키케로님께서는 어떻게 생각하시나요?
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